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THAILAND SHOPPING GUIDE


NARAGA BAGS FROM THAILAND FROM NARAYA SHOP TO ORDER ONLINE AND EXPORT TO SINGAPORE

 

 

Hi, I would like to order bulk purchase of Naraya Bags to be ship to Singapore.

How do I make payment for the Naraya Bags I want?

Do you help to check whether there's any new design in Naraya shop and help to take pictures?

What is the shipping cost?

How do you ship to Singapore? (By DHL, EMS etc..?)

 

 

 

 

 

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CAMBODIAN HAIR WEFTS WHOLESALER ADDRESS IN THAILAND, HAIR WEFTS EXTENSIONS HUMAN HAIR ASIAN WHOLESALER RELIABLE COMPANY

 

 

Hi there, I just came across your website and think it's a good idea you have over there. Anyways I would like to purchase some hair because I want to start my own business. Would it be possible to give me the contact detail of hair factories or suppliers in Thailand so I can contact them direct. If possible I would like to come there myself. I am very serious about this, please help me out. I'm from London. Thank you

 

 

 

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EXPORT CLOTHES TO SOUTH AFRICA, BUY BRANDED SOCCER TOPS IN THAILAND, WHERE TO FIND WHOLESALE SOCCER JERSEY IN ASIA

 

 

Hi there

I am in South Africa and am interested in starting up a business without having to travel to Thailand and would like more information as to how to start. My husband and I were there twice, once in 2006 and again in 2010 and we both love your country.

As a start, I want to buy branded soccer tops of very good quality (eg. Manchester United, Liverpool, Barcelona, Real Madrid, Chelsea), for adults and children. Is this something that you can do and can you please let me know approx. cost of shipping it to South Africa? I am looking at about 10 different samples to start off with just to ensure it is the quality that I want and then if I'm happy to ship about 100 - 200 pieces.

How much should I budget on for this to happen?

Thanking you in anticipation of the start of a good working relationship.

Fiona

 

 

 

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HEAVY METAL BANDS TSHIRTS FROM BANGKOK THAILAND, FIND HARD ROCK TSHIRTS AND BAND T-SHIRTS AT WHOLESALE PRICE

 

 

 

Dear Sir/Madam,

I am looking to buy heavy metal t-shirts. I would appreciate it if u could give me an approximate estimate as to how much it would cost to ship around 5 of them to India by the cheapest means available. I am from India and have to pay around 2500 INR for a total of 5 t-shirts, size- large. I would gladly place an order if your price is more competitive. Looking forward to hearing from you at the earliest.

Thanks.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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INDIA FASHION CLOTHES SUPPLIER FROM THAILAND, ORDER CLOTHES IN THAILAND FROM INDIA TO OPEN A STORE

 

hello friend,

i am starting a new store in india for women fashionable  
clothes and shoes,i recently visited bangkok and purchased 40kg quantity for  
checking response in here and i got very good response for it,now i want to  
know that i want to continue my purchase from bangkok on regular basis ,i  
want material from you on regular basis and what can we do about the choices  
of clothes i want and also the sizes ,and i read your thaipost about the  
charges it lands to 9700 approx for shipping in india for 10kgs ,is it door  
delivery?? and also what would be your fees ,pls send me every detail on my  
email.

 

Regards-hardik




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THE BANGKOK SHOPPER WEBSITE: BUYING ON YOUR BEHALF, SOURCING, WHOLESALE, RETAIL, ORDER FROM THAILAND

 

 

 

Our Bangkok Shopper website is a new website to allow you to order goods from Thailand and Bangkok when you are living abroad.

If you order goods online from Bangkok in Thailand with the Bangkok Shopper website you can be sure to buy only the best quality items at the best price without taking any risk to loose your money.

Be careful that some fake websites claim to offer our Bangkok Shopper online service when they are just scams and cheating website that do not offer any reliable service.

Fake Bangkok Shopper websites are not as good as Bangkok Personal Shopper website because stupid cheaters behind these websites are not even able to write their own text and just copy complete pages of Bangkok-Personal-Shopper.com websites that is your only real source of quality products in Thailand.

 

 

Services offered by The Bangkok Shopper website


The services that Thebangkokshopper provide are not limited to the following. Please feel free to contact TheBangkokShopper if you need any other help and assistance.

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Naraya Bags Purchase



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LADIES CLOTHES MANUFACTURER AND WHOLESALER IN THAILAND, FIND RELIABLE AND TRUSTABLE SOURCE TO SUPPLY CLOTHES

 

Hi,

I get to know that your company provides personal shopping services that actually attracted my attention. I am actually looking for ladies clothes manufacturer and wholesaler. Of course by this I do want a reliable and trustable source.
I will be coming Bangkok in early September to source for products. Do assist me with your quotation of fees for a day.


Thank you.

 

 

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Bangkok Wholesaler Google Trusted Store

Personal Shoppers Scammers

What You Need to Know to Find a Reliable Service

 



Dear Personal Shopper customers,


A customer has recently warned us about fake Personal Shopper services that have been launched in Thailand.

A fake companies also called Personal Shopper Bangkok is managed by scammers that pretend to provide a Personal Shopping services that is never completed.

As we offer the most reliable Bangkok Personal Shopper service to our customers it is our professional duty to alert them to avoid fake companies that do not offer any real service.

We often receive customers emails complaining that they have been scammed by another Personal Shopper website which pretends to offer a very cheap service. The fee was cheap but as Thailand wages are low these customers have been convinced by this company, but after paying for the service, the products price and the shipping tcost to their country these customers have never received anything from the fake Personal Shopper company.

What often happens is that personal shoppers do not reply to any message and disappear after receiving the money or create stories as Nigerian scammers, but also they sometimes ask more payment before shipping the goods, pretending that rates are no higher or that shipping is more expensive than before.

When it happens customers have no way to complain and can only accept the situation and forget their good or pay more to maybe receive the products that they have paid.

It is unacceptable that some illicit Bangkok Personal Shopper services scam innocent customers who put too much trust in this company and customers should not fall in the trap. Nobody want to pay more for a personal shopper service when the total cost was already agreed by both parts and nobody want to waste time with a company that is not reliable.

The best way to avoid doing business with illegal Bangkok Personal Shopper companies is to ask to pay by bank transfer for the service fee and/or the goods, then you will have the name and the address of the person who manages the personal shopper company, which will allow you to get your money back later.

Bank transfers to Thailand just take few days and it is true that Thai banks always charge a fee, but this transfer fee cannot be over 500 Thai Baht and no bank transfers take weeks to arrive in a Thai bank account.


Also, no personal shopper service should ask you to pay for goods before having done the necessary sourcing. You should only pay first a cheap fee to send your personal shopper look for the items that you want to buy in Bangkok and then, after the company will have sent you the photos of the goods that they have found you can decide to send a second payment for the shipping and for the products.


We hope that our message will help you to avoid Bangkok Personal Shopper scammers and that you won't be cheated by this fake company.

A good company is the one that replies quickly to your messages and that has good customers feedbacks as our Personal Shopper company.

If you have any question about fake Bangkok shopping services please contact Bangkok-Personal-Shopper.com and we will be happy to help you (no fee).

 

 

 

 

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PLATINUM THAILAND ONLINE ORDERS, HOW TO ORDER CLOTHES FROM THAILAND MALL PLATINIUM MARKET ONLINE

 

 

 

Hi,

 
I am from Singapore.
 
This is my first enquiries to you and hope you can reply as soon as possible.
 
Firstly, I have found a few wholesalers and made my order, but how can i transfer money to them and ask you to pick up goods then ship to me?
 
Secondly, I have a few wholesaler with different locations, so after i pay 1000 baht you will help me to collect all goods from different places within one day? or how long do you take? 
 
Thirdly, can i ask you to transfer money to wholesaler and i will pay you back? but how is the payment method in Thailand? how much do you charge from my side and the currency rate?
 
Fourthly, after I make my first purchase and you help me to pick up goods, then i will have to post your website link in my personal twitter or business twitter? if i post it then you can help me do my purchase immediately or wait for your next visit to that shop? if i don't post your link, i have to pay 1000 baht again?
 
Fifthly, what is your time limit for everyday, for example, before 2pm must let you know then you will collect my order on the same day, or what is your time limit if i want you to collect goods on the same day which i instructed you?
 
Thanks! Hope to do business with you. 

Best Regards,
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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WHOLESALE CONTACT LENS FROM DUEBA, VASSEN, AND GEO LENS COMPANIES

 

If you are looking for the best quality contact lenses we have the connections that you need.

We are selling wholesale contact lens from the most famous Korean and Japanese brands, as Dueba, Vassen, and Geo contact lens, so if you want to buy lots of contact lens, starting from 10 pieces, just contact us.

If you want to test our products the price for 10 contact lens of your choice is $99 and they will delivered by Express mail with internet tracking and insurance.

We have all the Geo contact lens series, but also all the Vassen contact lens, and all the Dueba contact lens, meaning that all the most famous celebrities contact lens can be yours for less than 10 dollars a pair !

If you need any information about our contact lens offer please contact us or add a comment on this page.

 

 

Personal-shopper-bangkok.com

 

 

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EXPORT BANGKOK CLOTHES TO PHILIPPINES, BUY DRESSES AND SHIRTS IN THAILAND, HOW TO BUY IN THAILAND FROM ABROAD AND SHIP BY POST

 

 

HI THERE,

I WANT TO SELL HIGH QUALITY DRESSES AND TOPS AT VERY AFFORDABLE PRICE BEAUTIFUL STYLES AND FASHIONABLE.
I HAVE HERE FEW SAMPLE PHOTOS FROM SUPPLIERS IN THAILAND.  MY CONCERN IS NOT LIMITED TO THE FOLLOWING PHOTOS ONLY BUT YOU CAN SUGGEST MORE STYLES AND COLORS AS LONG AS I CAN BUY THEM FROM ONE STORE OR SHOP TO SAVE COST.
IF I HAVE A BUDGET OF 8000 PHILIPPINE PESOS, HOW MANY CLOTHES CAN I BUY INCLUDING SHIPPING AND 1000 BHAT SHOPPER FEE.
PLEASE INDICATE ALSO THE WHOLESALE PRICE AND MINIMUM QUANTITY TO AVAIL WHOLESALE AND THE SIZES AND FABRICS OF CLOTHES.

THANK YOU SO MUCH!
 
(PHOTOS HERE ATTACHED)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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THAILAND DROPSHOPPING WEBSITE, BUY FASHIONABLE CLOTHES AND ACCESSORIES ON ASIAN DROP SHIPPING STORE

 

 

Hi I have started several drop shipping stores in Australia.  I am very  
interested in starting 2 new online stores.  One for tailor making equestrian  
jackets and the other to sell ladies kaftans.  There may also be other items  
I can set up.  Please can you explain to me how the drop shipping works with  
the stores you represent.. do I deal direct with them once you have set up  
the shop.. and how can I be sure that the trading will be guaranteed. How to  
I get drop shipping and product costs ?
thank you

 

 

 

 

 

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BUY PRODUCTS FROM CHINATOWN IN THAILAND, EXPORT GOODS FROM BANGKOK TO MANILLA IN PHILIPPINES

 

 

Hello.


I attached here the pictures of the items and the price in baht.  I bought these items at China Town last November only. But I need more for our shop.  The shop for the string dolls key chain is located inside the China Town Market.  It is just a small shop located opposite a big store selling gift boxes and other gift items.  The seller is a lady who sell various key chain products.
 
The white canvass bags can be purchased just in front of the China town market selling silver jewelries and accessories.  It is the shop located just in front the food stall serving soups with noodles owned by a Chinese family.  This is just across the Grand China building.  I think these items will not exceed 5 kilograms or maybe even lower.
 
Please refer to the attached for the things that I would like to purchase plus the description of the items and the prices.
 
After you see the products, can you please email to me the total price that I have to send your office including the shipping fee for 3 to 4 days door to door delivery.
 
This needs to be shipped to the Philippines postal code 2200.  I need this urgently within 4 to 5 days time the maximum.
 
I will be at Bangkok next month to source some suppliers for other items for our shop.  I will be visiting your office then so we could continue doing business.
 
Thanks.
 
 
 
 
 

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FIND FACTORY IN THAILAND TO MAKE MY CLOTHES, HOW TO BUY MADE TO ORDER WOMEN CLOTHES IN THAILAND

 


Hi you mention you are able to find small factory to made my clothes.

1. So they are able to do my label and put on my clothes right?

2. Do they accept pictures and do the sample for me? I do not have real sample of clothes. Of cus they have to make the same as the picture.

3. Will they have difficulty finding the material needed to make the clothes. For example, some may have prints on it.

4. Is there minimum purchase required?

5. Are you able to give me a list of made-to-order shop and some recent clothes they make so that I can see if they meet my expectation?

6. Are you able to search for me people who can design fashionable clothing too?

I am willing to pay what they deserve in order to work for me and not sell my design out to anyone.

7. Lastly, please try your best to source the DESIGNER & MANUFACTURER of Hollyhoque, Lara-J, Intoxiquette etc.


 

 

 

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BUY PERSONAL PROTECTION SHOCKER IN THAILAND, FIND ELECTROSHOCK GUN OR TASER WEAPON IN BANGKOK, WHERE TO BUY STUNT GUNS IN ASIA

 

 

Hi. I actually I live in Thailand, so it should make things easier. But I am struggling to find a personal protection "shocker" in Phitsanulok and believe they are freely available in Bangkok. I actually had one for my mother-in-law who used it, but my daughter dropped it in "shock" and it broke when she switched it on.

I am returning to my country (South Africa) in October with my wife and daughter for a week and she has requested a replacement as she will be alone in a VERY well protected house, but my wife has pleaded with me to get another one so I will oblige.

The model I am looking for should be fairly simple (not HUGE power that will overwhelm her), as I said it is being operated by a 60 year old who knows how to use a previous one. Preferably a long/longish "stick" with a safety switch that arms the unit. An elongated unit is also ok. The one I had before was a square hand unit (size of a square electric shaver) and was probably not good for her as she could not point it properly to a person. Can be battery operated or rechargable, don't mind.

Let me know what you think.

 

 

 

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WHOLESALE ITEMS IN THAILAND FOR INTERNATIONAL BUYERS, NEED ASSISTANCE TO BUY AT THE BEST PRICE

 

HELLO,

I just wanna inquire about the personal shopper, as i am planning to go BANGKOK for me to find some MALLS for wholesale items, I am from philippines and i need someone to assist me if where to find nice products yet affordable clothes for ladies, shoes, accessories and etc. as I am going to open soon my boutique shop..please i need your assistance to find me a LADY to assist me. Thank you and I would really appreciate it. Pls. inform me about the rate for 3 days only. Again, thank you and God bless...

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ORDER FACTORY SHIRTS FROM BANGKOK, BUY OFFICE UNIFORMS FROM THAILAND, EXPORT CLOTHES FOR COMPANY

 

 

Hello,
 
 
Please give me your address so I can send sample. I will also send photo. I will pay now, start with one product, I need this style of shirt on cotton blend, and I need it in
blue colour like royal blue - I have attached some colour samples and I need sizes (Australian sizes, I will send you sample of 2)
quantity 20 of size 10
quantity 15 of size 12
quantity 10 of size 14
quantity 20 of size 16
quantity 20 of size 18
quantity 15 of size 20
 
I will pick them up myself early in july so I need the product to be in bangkok please, I can not gurantee to buy the product until I will see it my self but I think you will do a good job!
I will take them to the embroidery man, so I will give you dates soon.
So I would like best price please but the quality has to be good as well but not fantastic, same as sample that I will send to you as soon as you give me your adress please.
 
This is the details of the shirts we use at this time, I don't need excatly the same, but similar but in blue, thank you.
Ladies ¾ sleeve stretch sleeve
60% Cotton/ 35% Polyester/ 5% Celestine
Open neckline with slim line placket
Cuffed Sleeves
Curved hemline
Ladies semi fitted shirt
Colour - Royal Blue - see attached blue colour
 
 
Thank you.
 
 
 
 

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HAWAI SUPPLIER AND PHILIPPINES WHOLESALER FOR DENIM JEANS, DENIM SHORTS, WOMEN CLOTHING, TRENDY BAGS AND SEXY BIKINIS

 

 

Hello,
 
I am looking for a supplier of denim jeans and womens clothing with very affordable pricing. I currently run a boutique in the Philippines and needs an ongoing supplier of affordable trendy clothings. I'm looking for trendy bags (non branded and and replica) I dont sell imitation or fake items. I also need a supplier of bikinis and denim shorts. Looking to sell it in Hawaii. 
 
I am a serious buyer and have a continued relationship with several suppliers in the philippines. Due to a bigger business potential, i would like to buy directly from thailand to get the best deals by volume. I have attached items that i'm looking for.
 
The attached pictures are just samples of what I'm looking for. I basically just need someone to pick a wholesaler that offers these items and take photos of their products so I can order. I will pay the service fee for both days ---take photos so I can order and the day to purchase the items. Please let me know if you are interested.
 
Your prompt response will be very appreciated. Thank you. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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AUTHENTIC BRANDED TSHIRTS FROM THAILAND, ORDER T-SHIRTS AND TOPS FROM BANGKOK MALLS WHOLESALERS AND FACTORIES

 

 

Dear Personal Shopper Bangkok,
 
I am interested in using your service however before paying the 1000B personal shopper service fee I would like to ask a few questions.
 
I am interested in the first instance to buy some Abercrombie and Fitch t-shirts and notice that the price you have quoted on your website is 4,715B for 12 Abercrombie and Fitch t-shirts.
 
My questions are as follows
1) how do I know that these are authentic Abercrombie and Fitch t-shirts and not 'Fakes' or 'copies'
2) assuming they are the real deal, can I request different sizing.
 
Also, a bit confused on the personal shopper fee - Do I only ever pay this fee once, or, do I have to pay the fee everytime I wish to buy a different product/item?
 
And finally, how long does it take for items to be shipped to the UK?
 
Kind Regards

 

 

 

 

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ORDER BIKINI SWIMSUIT FROM BANGKOK, WHERE TO FIND SEXY BIKINI TO EXPORT FROM THAILAND TO EUROPE OR USA

 

 

 

Hello,



I regularly visit Bangkok to buy bikini/swimwear , and now i found your site and though about trying your service.

The bikini i want to order is sell buy two swimwear shop located in Platinum Mall, they both located in the same floor and just around 20 steps away to each other. I already know the price of wholesales price they offer. Please let me know your email so i can attach the picture of the bikinis i want.

I plan to buy around 100 set bikini, and as for the shipping cost, i usually use door to door cargo, so you can just type the marking code of me on my package(i will tell you the marking code) and then call my cargo (in Pratunam Area), usually i stay in hotel around Pratunam and this cargo send their courir/man for free to pick up my package in Hotel. You dont need to pay for the shipping fee coz its door to door service, i will pay the shipping fee at the agent in Jakarta once i received the packages.

How much do i need to pay for this service and also i would like to send you the money too for the shopping cost, so you can give it to the seller.

awaiting for your response

Thank you

 

 

 

 

 

 

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IKEA SHOPPING IN THAILAND, ASK A PERSONAL SHOPPER TO BUY FURNITURE FOR YOU IN BANGKOK

 

 

Hi,

I want to buy furniture at Ikea but I want you to go shopping for me and ask Ikea to deliver to my house.

Please book the delivery at Ikea for me. I have sent them an e-mail where I am asking for this service on Saturday the 18th of February, but they had not respond. So please book the delivery service….
If you also can help me with good people for assembly service I will appreciate this. will be great with 2 persons. And With a good price for this service of course:-) Do we pay this persons directly or does it go true your company.

I will send a update shopping list tomorrow. Looking forward to come to Thailand on Friday and really appreciate your help.

What will the total price for your service be, and can we pay you cash at Ikea when we arrives there between 5-6 pm.

Please respond this e-mail as soon as possible so I know that we have an agreement, and I don`t have to find a back up…

Best regards.





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BANGKOK NARAYA ONLINE SHOP TO EXPORT NARAYA BAGS TO PHILIPPINES AND OTHER COUNTRIES
 
 
 
 
 
Hi,
 
I would like to inquire, how much it will cost and the shipping fee
 
I just bought a NaRaya Bags @ MBK mall,Bangkok last September 09, 2013
I bought it for 250Baht per bag.
 
I'm here now in the Philippines, and i want to get more NaRaYa Bags,
 
How much it will cost for the shipping and your fee if you will send it to me here in Philippines.
 
Thanks,
Joanne
 
 
 
 
 

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QATAR EXPORT FROM THAILAND, BUY FASHIONABLE CLOTHING IN BANGKOK AND SHIP TO QATAR AND OTHER MUSLIM COUNTRIES

 

 

Hi,
I'm leaving in Qatar and we visited Bangkok last April for leisure and to get  
a seller to do business with us but unfortunately we did not find anyone  
because of language barrier.

We bought around more than 250 pieces of bags, shoes and  
Abercrombie/Hollister/Lacoste clothes but we just managed to shipped the bags  
and shoes through courier company because government ban to shipped class A  
clothes like abercrombie unless we can bring it as accompany baggage. Within  
that 250 pieces items we started selling apparels and bags online here in  
Qatar. As of now our items are already sold-out and we want to order more.

Travelling from Qatar to Bangkok is very expensive and it's not practical. I  
would appreciate if you can help us get this items by providing the details  
of the items we want and the shops that we went in Bangkok.

THanks,

 

 

 

 

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